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Thursday, July 20, 2017

HDB 2 room BTO Reno Journey 0 (Shopping for Contractor)

Ok i had local Peter from Teck Lee Seng Reno which was a verbal quote. Peter does not do those very nice soft copy quotation but his handwritten prices were more reasonable than his partner, Daniel. He is responsive too, can whatsapp him using voice message or type chinese. Tip: I suggest using Peter if its small reno work with no interior design needed.

I felt i needed more for comparison. 

Therefore my sis intro me local Victor from Visual Dreams, a friendly guy which he recommended me his colleague Edwin Foo Senior Design Consultant, he was ok, responsive and professional, he tried to understand my needs and they do provide spaceman works. I find his soft copy quote very typical ID which i cant afford. 

So then i started hunting for contractor on renotalk forum and found Designer House, Ronald Goh.  (Forumers recommended to go to contractors and engage separately to save cost.)

Ronald from Designer House received good reviews on renotalk forum and he was prompt to reply all my email enquiries. His soft copy quote were good. But i still have my doubts.

I tried looking and found nothing online. So i ask my dad to recommend our ex neighbour, a contractor. Cant remember his company name. I find his quote rather expensive, it could be poor communication and also he quoted based on my dad's character. In the later part, he was rather slow to come up with final quote, guess he knew i wasnt going to use him. However, he made an effort to meet up my dad and pass him a nicely done and printed on good quality paper quote. Thanks a lot ex neighbour! :)

My bro gave me 2 company to contact. Mason & tiler works interior design in Tampines. His whatsapp quote based on floor plan were ex and he took so so so long to reply. I think he was not very keen thats why.

ANother contact he gave was Steven, he does commercial and govt projects. He gave relative good whatsapp quote based on floor plan but very very unresponsive. Guess my project was too small. He had helped reno my bro house and he said he was not responsive after job done.

My big sis gave me a Malaysian contractor also called Peter from LLoyd Building Service. A very nice man and easy going. Again he does whatsapp voice message or type chinese only. He was quick to want to go down to see and give a better quote but i was too tired from going down just for 10-15 min for a quote. It took me 1.5-2 hrs to reach. SO i came up with a video and floor plan for an excel quote from him (his prices included GST). Actually i was very sick then, i tot i needed to see a specialist. His quote was good....but as one or two of the items were ex i fished around and found suppliers who can provide cheaper quotes for those items. 

These suppliers i found through the ads pasted on the lifts.

It was then i got to know Yong Heng Aluminium Engineering works, Andy, a Malaysian too. SO u have to use whatsapp voice message too. Or type chinese characters.
Yong Heng Aluminium Engineering Works

Most Malaysian contractors you have to type chinese or use voice message as their English is not good. Or if you can speak malay.

I asked him about window grilles. I found his price were good so asked him to go down and have a look. During this time Peter from Lloyd Building Service were not responsive as he was preparing for his trip and there were holidays during then and as he is a devout Christian, calling him on Sunday is a no and also cannot call on public holidays as he might go to Malaysia.

Prior to deciding to use Peter from Lloyd, i did ask Peter/Daniel from Teck Lee Seng Reno to give me an official quote instead of the verbal quote given. My family felt the prices were still negotiable but Daniel refused to give discount.
Actually the grilles quoted by Peter/Daniel was good. But as he refused to give discount so i looked for Lloyd Building Service.

Andy from Yong Heng quoted me SGD400 for the middle portion for living, bedroom and kitchen. Peter from Teck Lee Seng quoted SGD350. But Andy from YH was cheaper compared with other suppliers.

So i decided to call Andy to my new place for an actual quote. I only did living and bedroom which was SGD300. A little expensive as Peter from TLS told me at a later stage (which i come to that) but since i already had come this far....

Andy told me he does kitchen/sink/tv cabinet, wardrobe, laminate flooring, door, etc. Just no painting and tiling.

I asked him to quote me the door and kitchen cabinet, it was cheaper than Peter from Lloyd Building Svc. 

So i edited the quote to remove kitchen cabinet and door given by Peter from LBS....he was ok. But he was away for a long time.I waited for him to come back while Andy finished up installing the window grilles for me.

There was a miscomm with Andy and he brought a brown colour grilles to match my silver window. So my advise is....pls ask him to write down the colour on the quote.Then inform him through watsapp again. Just once will do.

i just accepted the brown grilles and din complain as i really cant remembered who's the one ...

Then Peter from LBS was unresponsive after he was back from trip. He gave me vague answer on when to start.I thought shit...my schedule a bit late cos i waited so long for him to come back. Then he gave me such answers.

Well probably he felt cant earn much after i remove so many items away. in fact  a lot of contractors doesnt like to work with 2 room BTO. Too small to earn. Unless im rich i can afford to do more works. 

That was a clue that he doesnt wan to accept my job but felt hard to refuse.

Prior to this..during the day when i installed my window grilles i met up with Peter from TLS. He said he can help me installed floor tiles and shower kerb only. At that time i had no time to source around and felt his quote was the cheapest for floor tiles among the quotes i had gathered. Peter was a very helpful person and easy to talk to.

So i knew i had to say gd bye to Peter from LBS and ask Peter from TLS to start my reno le. Peter from LBS readily and happily said ok when i said i asked someone else to do it.

Peter from TLS at the same time readily accepted this job and could start on a Sunday which i had chosen to start reno.


HD Tiling Works-Adrian

Adrian from HD Tiling offer a better price for floor tiling.

So my flooring,acid wash and kerb from TLS Peter (shifu is Ah Boon), kitchen cabinet and door from Yong Heng Andy.



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